Foreverlivin - Mage

[foreverlivin]

A. Basic Information

Name? Jonathan
Age? 30+ Gender? Male
Time zone? MST (Arizona)
How long have you played WoW? 5.5 yrs
Total time on this character? 100 days

B. System Information

What are your system specs? Quad core, 8gig Ram, Gforce 8800GTX LSI 2x
Do you have a mic? Yes
Do you have any objections to speaking on vent when needed? No
Do you have any disconnection problem at all? No
Post a speed test from http://www.speedtest.net/ [URL=http://www.speedtest.net]http://www.speedtest.net/result/902368969.png
Average Latency while raiding? 30-50
Average FPS in raid during a boss? 70-120

C. Raiding and Character information

1. Character Name Foreverlivin| Spec TtW/Fire, Arcane| Class Mage

2. Are you a clicker? Depending on the fight, PVP no, 5man yes, 10/25man trash yes, most bosses no.

3. Do you have any notable alts? Not in this server

4. What is your raiding experience Pre-BC? Did it all as the content was introduced, never cleared Nax all the way it was introduce late in the vanilla days. In BC? Cleared all 25m raid including BT WoTLK? Cleared everything on 25m including LK in my prot pally. Never in a leadership role, as an MT I did run raids during trash but no boss fights. Specify if in a leadership role.

5. Provide an armory link to your character and a wowhead link to your normal raiding spec. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Akama&cn=Foreverlivin

6. You will need lots of consumables to keep up with the pace during progression raids. Do you have the will and time to put in enough effort to keep an adequate amount? I have 5 bank toons full of fish feasts, flasks, scrolls and gems, including an alt toon maxed out on almost all professions not including LW and Eng.

7. Will you come to a progression raid having already read any available information relevant to encounters? Yes, I do research of my own but also open for alternate guild strats.

8. What do you think about beginning raids early and staying beyond the required raid times to down new content? I can make a few exceptions on some days if progression is on the line. Otherwise I have a set start time and end time.

9. Post a WWS report / Wow Meter Online of a few recent raids in your guild. If your guild does not run these, post a screenshot(s) of your recount for some boss encounters. (DO NOT LEAVE THIS OUT)

10. Post a screenshot of your UI while in a raid environment (in combat). (Give a list of any relevant addons not shown.)


D. Dual Spec

1. What is your secondary spec? Arcane

2. Are you able to play it as well as your main spec? Yes, arcane was the main spec until I had anough gear to justify going Ttw+fire spec

3. Are you willing to change your main spec and/or secondary spec for guild needs? Sure


E. Professions

1. What are your 2 professions? if they are not maxed to the level of profession perks, why not? Mining/Herbalism are maxed I originally picked these 2 professions for farming purposes and to make gold.

2. If you have a gathering profession, what is stopping you from dropping it for a profession that benefits your stats more? I have several toons with any single beneficial profession, for me to drop these and re-level would be a pain.


F. Other Questions

1. What guild are you currently in? Decimation Who is/was the GM? Rocc Include their website no website.

2. Why are you leaving your current guild? I want to raid 25m content, we're only doing 10m

3. Do you play actively outside of raiding? Yes, mostly 5m randoms, WG and PVP

4. Are you able to take and improve upon harsh criticism? Yes, please keep it real dont sugarcoat it, tell like it is, that way it serves as a wake up call.

5. There will be bench time. Everyone will have to sit at one point in time or another. Are you okay with this? Yes, will rpbably remain on vent but will go to alt toons to farm, vendor and such.

6. Why are you interested in joining Acquired Taste? do you currently know anyone in Acquired Taste? Interested for the mere fact of raiding, I have not gone trough your whole roster not sure if I know anyone there.

7. What are the other guilds you applied to? None any particular reason why you are shopping for multiple guilds? Have not applied to anyone else, not pushing too hard on apping to any guild really.

8. How can we contact you outside of the game? In game is fine or ingame mail, I log in a daily basis. AIM, Email, etc...

[Iriemember]

I have several toons with any single beneficial profession, for me to drop these and re-level would be a pain.


I Feel I don't ask much of my members, but this is one thing I do ask.
9. Post a WWS report / Wow Meter Online of a few recent raids in your guild. If your guild does not run these, post a screenshot(s) of your recount for some boss encounters. (DO NOT LEAVE THIS OUT)

10. Post a screenshot of your UI while in a raid environment (in combat). (Give a list of any relevant addons not shown.)

[foreverlivin]

I Feel I don't ask much of my members, but this is one thing I do ask.

whoops, sorry meant to do find some screenies but spaced out. Let me go to IF and do some dummy dps today and will post damage meters will post once I have a break at work.

I apologize for the inconvenience.

[EFFIE]

Lucky for you Irie posted before I did, I wouldn't have give you the time of day with how shitty your application is. The link for your character doesn't even work, L2post.

[Bustah]

What I think Irie is referring to is your lackluster professions. Are you seriously apping to a guild with 2 gathering professions? I hope you know your role in the raid is to DPS, and by not min/maxing it shows how little you care about your character. Also just how much you want to be carried.

You should also probably link your pallys armory, because you have raided nothing on your mage.

[foreverlivin]

I appreciate your patience. Here are a couple of screen shots with my UI and about 30 hits on my ttw/fire spec. Once I get home I will run a heroic or something and will post a dps/damage performance report.

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/c67bd9a426.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/c78f08f59a.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

To Bustah: "What I think Irie is referring to is your lackluster professions. Are you seriously apping to a guild with 2 gathering professions? I hope you know your role in the raid is to DPS, and by not min/maxing it shows how little you care about your character. Also just how much you want to be carried.

You should also probably link your pallys armory, because you have raided nothing on your mage."

Like stated before this mage used to be my farming toon, after years of farming and the multitude of alts I have chosen to leave my professions alone as they are such a pain to level up. I am applying to your guild confident of my skills based on game play.
Not sure how you can conclude how little effort I have put into a "character" due to the fact that I do not have the "proper" professions for the mage class. I have never been carried and will never allow it, please refer to my non-raiding paladin page below to show that I am able to perform on a critical position and let the list of accomplishments show how committed I am to my accounts.
On the other hand I would like to say that due to the effort I've put into my accounts (yes I have 3 accounts) having maxed out professions on several tools to become self-sufficient as a whole account not just one single toon.
My paladin way my main toon for the longest time but have given him a break from raiding hardcore her is the armory link (makes sure to remove any additional spaces when copying the link): http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Akama&cn=Eternalalive
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To Effie: "Lucky for you Irie posted before I did, I wouldn't have give you the time of day with how shitty your application is. The link for your character doesn't even work, L2post."

I would very much appreciate if you could provide more specific feedback about which part, sections and such were so bad and inappropriate so I can in the future fill a more acceptable application. Please retry the armory link in the original post, might want to make sure any additional spaces are deleted when copying the link, I tried it myself just now without any issues.
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To Iriemember, I very much appreciate your patience and the opportunity for a second look I have attached a couple of screenies as promised.

I would like to ask your reply either way at your convenience as I wish not to waste your time and perhaps move on myself.

[Bustah]

If your mage is an alt turned main, you should treat it as such. I don't care if any of your alts have beneficial professions, how will that benefit your mage at all? Nobody cares that your alts have all 450 maxed professions, when your mains profession does 0 for DPS.

I am applying to your guild confident of my skills based on game play.

Lack of raiding professions, no parses of any recent encounter. How are we supposed to judge or base any of that seriously? Every recruit says they're amazing, but showing unwillingness to advance your character to be better, is a big DON'T RECRUIT ME sign. Because of this it shows you put very little effort into your character. Playing your character/farming on it =/= putting effort to making it the best you can in a raid situation.

Also you're a clicker.

[Midgey]

Like stated before this mage used to be my farming toon, after years of farming and the multitude of alts I have chosen to leave my professions alone as they are such a pain to level up. I am applying to your guild confident of my skills based on game play.
Not sure how you can conclude how little effort I have put into a "character" due to the fact that I do not have the "proper" professions for the mage class. I have never been carried and will never allow it, please refer to my non-raiding paladin page below to show that I am able to perform on a critical position and let the list of accomplishments show how committed I am to my accounts.
On the other hand I would like to say that due to the effort I've put into my accounts (yes I have 3 accounts) having maxed out professions on several tools to become self-sufficient as a whole account not just one single toon.
My paladin way my main toon for the longest time but have given him a break from raiding hardcore her is the armory link (makes sure to remove any additional spaces when copying the link): http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Akama&cn=Eternalalive



What it seems you're failing to grasp is we, as a guild, are only interested in your main. If you have 3 accounts with full maxed professions that's great for you, but not so much me.

You are here to do two things: 1) DPS and 2) Not fuck up while DPSing. So don't you think you can sit here and justify not having 2 crafting professions as a way of min/maxing your DPS.

[Hyper]

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All I see.

I don't think any class has a ramp up that consumes 20% mana and only puts out 6k dps.:confused:

[Tatari]

estoypretty has mining js

[foreverlivin]

I would like to remove my application. I don't think I would enjoy playing with some of you. I'm not sure if the couple of officers posting here with such demeanor are as critical as they pretend to be.

Not sure when being a "clicker" become such a huge factor in gauging the skills and abilities of a player, its sad to see ppl follow the main stream mentality what's your GS? check, what are your professions? check, you're a clicker = you fail typical trolling format. If it's not the L2 type / misspelling errors excuse then you're a clicker card that gets brought up.

I never claimed to be amazing , never bragged to be a super duper player, what I do know is the confidence of my skills as a mage regardless of the professions I've chosen by mere convenience. I doubt every single player in any guild has the perfect profession match for its class, someone is always going to have a problem with any choice for any reason.

Lastly, as implied in the original post I took a break from raiding but not from the game and decided to comeback to raiding on my mage. Again the way it comes across is as coming back to raiding with a "sub-par" toon is an completely unheard of scenario to you and instead of giving pointers to the possible candidate a grilling session has to ensue by posting the most negative comments which does not benefit the applicant nor the image of the guild.

Again I am removing my application and wish you all best of luck.

Would be very cliche if someone replies with the childish "umad bro" comment.

[Hyper]

I never claimed to be amazing , never bragged to be a super duper player, what I do know is the confidence of my skills as a mage regardless of the professions I've chosen by mere convenience. I doubt every single player in any guild has the perfect profession match for its class, someone is always going to have a problem with any choice for any reason.



This is exactly what the application process tries to weed out. Also, in b4 mentioning divus dropping enchanting to get 2 more SP with jewelcrafting, lolz.

[Azln]

umad bro?

[Slott]

I would like to remove my application. I don't think I would enjoy playing with some of you. I'm not sure if the couple of officers posting here with such demeanor are as critical as they pretend to be.

Not sure when being a "clicker" become such a huge factor in gauging the skills and abilities of a player, its sad to see ppl follow the main stream mentality what's your GS? check, what are your professions? check, you're a clicker = you fail typical trolling format. If it's not the L2 type / misspelling errors excuse then you're a clicker card that gets brought up.

I never claimed to be amazing , never bragged to be a super duper player, what I do know is the confidence of my skills as a mage regardless of the professions I've chosen by mere convenience. I doubt every single player in any guild has the perfect profession match for its class, someone is always going to have a problem with any choice for any reason.

Lastly, as implied in the original post I took a break from raiding but not from the game and decided to comeback to raiding on my mage. Again the way it comes across is as coming back to raiding with a "sub-par" toon is an completely unheard of scenario to you and instead of giving pointers to the possible candidate a grilling session has to ensue by posting the most negative comments which does not benefit the applicant nor the image of the guild.

Again I am removing my application and wish you all best of luck.

Would be very cliche if someone replies with the childish "umad bro" comment.

The reason your application was gauged as bad was not due to gearscore or anything of the like. When approaching new content, every DPS is expected to play at their best - meaning they need to maximize their possible output and have as quick of a reaction time as possible (sadly, many members have since forgotten this) When we killed heroic lich king, we hit the enrage timer - every single dps counted. If you can't maximize your output due to it being "too much work" how can we expect you to maximize your effort each attempt on a new raid boss? Things require effort - did you show up to your job interview in a suit and tie, or did you go in a tee-shirt and jeans?

In addition, the negative feeling towards clicking is that it's typically much faster to hit a keybinding than to move your mouse to click on a skill. In fights that test reaction time, again such as Heroic Lich King, moving out of defile (typically using your mouse to mouse turn and running out of it) while still dpsing would be extremely difficult if you clicked your spells(infact, it's impossible to do both at the same time). The reason for the questions that appear on an application are to gauge your prowess as a player prior to even seeing you in action. It's like....if a guild had a clicker prior, and noticed they couldn't perform as quickly as a keybound player, the guild would try to avoid the clicker in the future.

You're applying to the top guild on Akama. At that level of playstyle, there are many elitist assholes, or people that don't want to waste their time with a subpar player. Par in this case not meaning average, however meaning not on the same tier or prowess as other players in the guild. Having a bad guild player amongst 24 good players can drag a raid down, when it only takes one person making a mistake or not fulfilling their duties to a maximum to cause wipe after wipe after wipe.

Good luck sir.

[Starwnd]

4. Are you able to take and improve upon harsh criticism? Yes, please keep it real dont sugarcoat it, tell like it is, that way it serves as a wake up call.



To put it bluntly since you cannot comprehend anything that was said to you seeing as it was written at a level of which is a millennium beyond your understanding, you sir are a freaking moron that doesn't understand the game enough to see why his lackadaisical and sub-par application received the responses that it did. Wait, to say that is sub-par is an insult to underachievers everywhere seeing that they have the common sense to understand they are out of their league. Another reason why you received the responses that you did is because the question 4 is not a joke in which you obviously saw it as one. And you are most likely correct in not wanting to raid with this guild because your enormous I'm a retard that's inexperienced sign dangling over your head would just get you even more ridicule then this forums crappy excuse for an application.

and to dumb it down even more so that there is hope you might understand what i am saying, you are being trashed for the simple reason that you can't understand that your application is beyond pitiful.

also some piece of advice, since you crave for some, you should look at other applications to the guild you are applying to before writing your own just so you know what your getting yourself into and understand what the guild wants because odds are they are not gonna lower their standards so that you met them.

yeah and what slot said since he put it nicely

[Bustah]

I don't know why you're so upset about what we're telling you. You've been playing this game for 5.5 years, and you don't know ANYTHING about how a serious raiding guild weeds out applicants. How ignorant can you be?

Please enlighten me, go apply to any guild that is in a higher rank than us. Please tell me they will not ask of you to do the same and to change your professions, to ask what your keybinds are, and if you're a clicker. I don't know if you're playing the same game, but if you like to be a sub-par player stuck in an average guild, farming content that is trivial and easy go ahead. But when you want to actually do progression and do server firsts, come back and talk to me.

Like I said, you think we're being picky, and assholes about this shit. But in reality you've just raided with such low expectations and standards, that when we actually expect you to do something that benefits your character and the guild, you're against it? And you're saying we should give YOU pointers on how to play your class. Sorry like I said, it seems you just want to be carried. You should know whats best for your class, what are the best professions and how to min/max.

I don't even know why I'm responding to this, because obviously you think I'm trolling and doing this for the lulz. But I take applications (most) quite seriously.

P.S. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR2msVMB-AY
Should never argue that clicking vs. non-clicking argument. It's a mainstream mentality because it's true. Unlike GS, being a clicker is fucking awful.

[Starwnd]

P.S. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR2msVMB-AY


LAWLAWZORLAWO @ taunting target your tanking (but it does make me sad inside)

[Midgey]

You know what, I don't even care if he comes back to read this, I feel too compelled to post.

Not sure when being a "clicker" become such a huge factor in gauging the skills and abilities of a player
Gonna make this simple and just say: November 23th, 2004

its sad to see ppl follow the main stream mentality what's your GS? check, what are your professions? check, you're a clicker = you fail typical trolling format. If it's not the L2 type / misspelling errors excuse then you're a clicker card that gets brought up.

No one brought up gearscore, because its a dumb basis for much of anything. The other are critical in any app, professions show your dedication to you toon/raiding and no matter what you say, there is no way, I repeat NO FUCKING WAY a clicker can play at the same level of an equally skilled player. If you want to get into a high end raiding guild, I suggest you either come up with some keybinds fast, or find a guild that won't ask about your clicking prowess.

I never claimed to be amazing , never bragged to be a super duper player, what I do know is the confidence of my skills as a mage regardless of the professions I've chosen by mere convenience.

I'm confused as to what, exactly, you are confident about then?

I doubt every single player in any guild has the perfect profession match for its class, someone is always going to have a problem with any choice for any reason.


You know what, you're probably right. Our tanks have mining. I have enchanting when I should have engineering. But no one here has 2 gathering professions, not even my alts, and I'm completely self-sufficient.



Lastly, as implied in the original post I took a break from raiding but not from the game and decided to comeback to raiding on my mage. Again the way it comes across is as coming back to raiding with a "sub-par" toon is an completely unheard of scenario to you and instead of giving pointers to the possible candidate a grilling session has to ensue by posting the most negative comments which does not benefit the applicant nor the image of the guild.


Look, buddy, I don't give a shit about how "sub-par" your toon is. If you think gear is the least of our concern I suggest you armory Bethoven. That said, We are not here to babysit you, hold your hand, etc. We expect you to have at least a basic, functional knowledge of your class and the game in general. If you don't display that on your application, its not my problem.

Next time, buy the strategy guide.

[Lobo]

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[socalskillz]

6. Why are you interested in joining Acquired Taste? do you currently know anyone in Acquired Taste? Interested for the mere fact of raiding, I have not gone trough your whole roster not sure if I know anyone there.

If you are Interested for the mere fact of raiding then you should join another guild, it is obvious that you don't have what it takes to be in the top guild on the server when my alt lock would out dps you with res sickness ( also I know how to post a armory link... just saying)

4. Are you able to take and improve upon harsh criticism? Yes, please keep it real dont sugarcoat it, tell like it is, that way it serves as a wake up call.

You do realize that what these officers that are post are doing, they are not sugarcoating that you are bad. You apped int a high end guild with two gathering professions, that is BAD. If you app into other guilds I would change this to, "No I cannot I will get defensive and insult the people in the guild that I am apping to"

[Astrii]

You guys are putting way too much effort into this lol

[socalskillz]

I put way too much effort into your mom last night... Just saying

[Lobo]

Yo mrs gunderbringer is srs bsns

[Enhasa]

I'm sure everyone else already covered this 10x fold but you're fucking awful, kill yourself, etc etc

come back from 5 days of training staying in tents in the middle of shit alabama and this is the app I get? wtf...

also, clicker